It’s odd that AGW deniers
continually include false or misleading information in their arguments,
information which invariably includes input from many so called experts, who
are willing to discredit decades of established climate science. The
qualifications of Dr. Rajendra Pachauri--former Chairperson of the IPCC has been
attacked this way. Below is a paste from Bill Moyers’ website that
debunks a famous petition that was circulated among scientists and supposedly
reveals large numbers of climate scientists who do not accept predominantly
human causes for global warming. However, this biased Oregon Petition Project
includes large numbers of signatures from scientist having only Bachelors
degrees---including meteorologists, and those representing many marginally
related scientific fields with completely inadequate backgrounds and
accreditation;
A link:
http://billmoyers.com/2014/05/16/eight-pseudo-scientific-climate-claims-debunked-by-real-scientists/
"But
that hasn't prevented climate deniers from compiling long lists of
people they claim to be dissenting climatologists. The most prominent of which was
the Oregon Petition project, which was organized by a chemist named Art
Robinson, founder of a group called the Oregon Institute of Science and
Medicine (OISM), which also markets a home-schooling kit for “parents concerned
about socialism in the public schools.”
The petition was supposedly signed
by “31,000 American scientists” who opposed the consensus “entirely on
scientific grounds published in peer reviewed journals.” But in fact, anyone
could sign on, and according to Michael Mann, director of Penn
State’s Earth System
Science Center,
the list ultimately included the Spice Girls and several Star Wars
characters."
In the paste from the website linked
below, one clearly sees a long list of job experiences which involve
associations with many energy and oil companies—a reflection of Dr. Pachauri's attempts to influence and promote knowledge and discover possible
solutions for man-made climate change problems.
Another link:
Dr. Rajendra Pachauri's
background;
Dr Pachauri has also been associated with
academic and research institutes. He is on the
Board of Directors of the Oil and
Natural Gas Corporation Ltd (June 2006) and also on the Board of Directors
of the NTPC Limited (January 2006). He was on the Board of Directors of
the Indian Oil Corporation Ltd (January 1999 to September 2003); Board of
Directors of GAIL (India)
Ltd. (April 2003 to October 2004); National Thermal Power Corporation Ltd
(August 2002 to August 2005); the Board of Governors, Shriram Scientific and
Industrial Research Foundation (September 1987-1990); the Executive
Committee and then the Board of Trustees of the India International
Centre, New Delhi (1985 onwards); the Governing Council and President (September
2004 – September 2006) of the India Habitat Centre, New Delhi (October
1987 onwards); and the Court of Governors, Administrative Staff College of
India (1979-81).
A final paste from yet another website,
reveals that Rajendra is no lightweight when it comes to the scientific,
economic, and social issues involved in climate science, and is also a very
credible authority on global warming.
One more link:
"Unfortunately, once again
Lord Monckton what you’re saying is not the truth. Pachauri is no more a
“railroad engineer” than you are a member of the House of Lords! I dare you to
look at his accomplishments:
:
North
Carolina State University,
Raleigh, NC,
USA,
MS in Industrial Engineering
PhD in In Dr. R.K. Pachauri’s
Biographydustrial Engineering
PhD in Economics,
served as Assistant Professor
(August 1974 -- May 1975)
Visiting Faculty Member (Summer 1976 and
1977) in the Department of Economics and Business.
He joined TERI as Director in
April 1981.
Visiting Professor, Resource
Economics at the College of Mineral and Energy Resources, West Virginia University
(August 1981 -- August 1982);
Senior Visiting Fellow, Resource
Systems Institute, East -- West Center,
USA (May --
June 1982);
Visiting Research Fellow, The
World Bank, Washington, DC (June -- September 1990).
Recognizing his vast knowledge and
experience in the energy -- environment field, the United Nations Development
Program appointed him as a part time adviser in the fields of Energy and
Sustainable Management of Natural Resources, 1994 -- 1999.
His wide-ranging expertise has
resulted in his being invited to join various international and national
committees and boards, which on the international level include:
Member, Board of the International
Solar Energy Society (ISES), 1991 -- 1997;
Member, World Resources Institute
(WRI) Council, 1992;
Chairman, Work Group A -- World
Energy Council (WEC) Committee on Developing Countries, 1993 -- 1995;
President (1988), Chairman (1989
-- 90), International Association for Energy Economics (IAEE), Washington, D C
.;
President, Asian Energy Institute,
1992 onwards.
Committees of the Government of
India which he has served include
Member, Panel of Eminent Persons
on Power, Ministry of Power;
Member, Delhi Vision -- Core Planning Group;
Member, Advisory Board on Energy
(ABE), Government of India, 1983 -- 1988 (The Board reported directly to the
Prime Minister of India);
Member, National Environmental
Council, Government of India
under the Chairmanship of the Prime Minister of India, November 1993 and April
1999;
Member, Oil Industry Restructuring
Group, "R" Group, Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas, Government
of India, 1994.
He has also served on academic and
research institute bodies including:
Member, Board of Governors,
Trireme Scientific & Industrial Research Foundation, September 1987;
Member, Executive Committee of the
India International Center, 1985 onwards; Member, Governing Council of the
India Habitat Center, New Delhi, October 1987 onwards;
Member, Court of Governors,
Administrative Staff College of India, 1979 -- 81.
In January 1999, Dr R K Pachauri
was appointed as Director, Board of Directors of the Indian Oil Corporation
Limited (a Fortune 500 company) for a period of 3 years.
In April 1999, Dr R K Pachauri was
appointed as the Member, Board of Directors of the Institute for Global
Environmental Strategies (IGES), Environment Agency, Government of Japan, for a
period of 3 years.
In September 1999, Dr R K Pachauri
was appointed as the Chairman, The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway Heritage
Foundation, Darjeeling.
He taught at the School of
Forestry & Environmental Studies, Yale
University, USA,
as McCluskey Fellow during 6 September -- 8 December 2000.
In July 2001, Dr R K Pachauri was
appointed Member, Economic Advisory Council to the Prime Minister of India.
Elected as Chairman of IPCC
(Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), April 2002."
It's understandable that a denier
might want to point to Rajendra's original job with an Indian Railways company,
since qualifications for anyone in the IPCC should be impressive. But that
early job is not nearly as indicative of his cumulative and extensive education
and academic qualifications to chair an organization like the IPCC. His
knowledge of how energy is made and delivered in diverse markets, makes him an
excellent spokesperson for a problem which ultimately involves both of those
fields, and unlike many deniers his accomplishments aren't manufactured or
enabled by Denier's organizations, which already hold opinions favorable to big
oil and coal, before their "research" even starts.
This Information
about Dr. Pachauri illustrates the way deniers, misinform the public—never
mentioning that large numbers of Climate scientists are very qualified to do
global warming research—certainly far more than the numbers of pseudo
scientists like Lord Monckton, (one of Rajendra's critics), who has almost
no suitable qualifications at all. I only wish newspapers around the world, had
the time and inclination to publish truly objective comments about our climate,
which could then be verified by research rather than misinformation and lies
circulated by global warming deniers, quacks and charlatans!
Sincerely,
Peter W. Johnson
Superior, WI.
You build straw men all the time. That 97& consensus is the biggest.
ReplyDeleteNon-sequitur.
ReplyDeleteHmmm. You either do not know what a "background level" is, or you are trolling. Be my guest, go and account from every molecule, then get back to us when you are done.
ReplyDeleteOr save yourself some time and look up "argument from ignorance" in Wikipedia.
The fact is, we know CO2 emission amounts very well. You are hung-up on this idea of undersea emission estimates going from 60 million tons to 600 million. In the area of total natural emissions that comes to only about .07% change. That is an insignificant change in the total amount. And, that is assuming the new estimate is correct, which is questionable.
ReplyDeleteAs for manmade emissions, we have a very good idea of how much we emit. We know how much coal is mined and burned. We know how much oil is produced and consumed. We know how much natural gas is used. We can take all of this data and get a very good estimate of our CO2 production.
The numbers on this is all well within acceptable margins of error.
What you are doing is like saying there is no haystack because someone found an extra piece of hay that wasn't accounted for.
No, they aren't. Volcanic emissions are accounted for very well. The real proof of this is to examine the Keeling Curve when there are massive eruptions, such as Mt Pinatubo and we see there is no spike in the level of atmospheric CO2. This is positive proof that volcanic CO2 emissions are small and our estimates are accurate.
ReplyDeleteThe 97% consensus figure has been confirmed by several sources, including Richard Tol who is a denier and attempted to disprove it. The consensus figure was obtained after the denier-industry tried to undermine climate science by claiming there was no consensus among scientists. Without this lie by the denier industry there would have been no need to counter their claim.
ReplyDeleteWhich brings up a very interesting point. You have a bunch of people that are active in denying climate change. At every step, they are found to be liars. Yet, you continue to believe them. Then, it is revealed they are all on the payroll of the fossil fuel industry. Yet, you continue to believe them. Personally, if I found out someone was paid to lie to repeatedly lie to me, I would quit listening to them. Which makes me wonder why people still listen to them at all. I sure would like to hear why you think any of those people are still credible enough to follow while rejecting everything the scientists have been proving through scientific research? You are welcome to be that way. It's your right. I'm just curious.